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i would have think such people who snitch are competitors in same niche most likely, that suck

but then again, you snitch when there’s a valid reason for it .. i do hope Google go thru some kind of QA & poking around before banning/penalize someone

i would have think such people who snitch are competitors in same niche most likely, that suck

but then again, you snitch when there’s a valid reason for it .. i do hope Google go thru some kind of QA & poking around before banning/penalize someone

Unless you happen to run a pron site Then it’s probably a dream come true.

Spam site != pron site

Unless you happen to run a pron site Then it’s probably a dream come true.

Spam site != pron site

Or put up a badly done cloak in your .htaccess file. That would do the trick as well..

or, just take the site down and put up 404′s for all pages.. usually deindexes you within a week.

Or, use google webmaster tools to get youself delisted.

or.. go ahead and link to any spam sites you want. Since instead of a backlink, it will be an on-site content link out to bad neighborhoods (so, don’t write that blog post about ‘lamest spam sites ive ever seen’) can hurt you.. since its on your site, and its something you control yourself.

but shady backlinks? naw. it wont help you, but its not going to kill you

Or put up a badly done cloak in your .htaccess file. That would do the trick as well..

or, just take the site down and put up 404′s for all pages.. usually deindexes you within a week.

Or, use google webmaster tools to get youself delisted.

or.. go ahead and link to any spam sites you want. Since instead of a backlink, it will be an on-site content link out to bad neighborhoods (so, don’t write that blog post about ‘lamest spam sites ive ever seen’) can hurt you.. since its on your site, and its something you control yourself.

but shady backlinks? naw. it wont help you, but its not going to kill you

None of these methods will get you ‘massive pagerank’, or any pagerank at all, but they sure as hell won’t be the reason that you get deindexed.

#6/7 are interesting ones. Even if you get 100% relevent links and everything is gorgeous, it is said all over the internet that ‘growing too fast’ will hurt your backlinks. However, what about these massive overnight ‘viral’ sites. I launched a site, hit front page digg, front page reddit, etc, where as previously, it didnt have a single backlink, suddenly it was on many many blogs in one day. Now, the number is probably not in the thousands, but even look at sites like this milliondollarwiki! They asked *tons* of bloggers to blog about it.. 1000s overnight pretty much.. and.. you don’t see them suffering. Again, it is an external factor and cant ‘hurt’ you, only help you. Google can choose to discount the weight of all these ‘new’ links, but it sure wont deindex you completely.

7 ive read all over the place, but I see big sites doing it all the time. Say a big company launches a new site. What do they do first? They link it from their corporate site, and other related sites. I could point out examples of this if you wish. The sites rocket to good ranking since they are linked from *huge* trusted sites, even though they are on the same cname. I’ve no doubt that google discounts the value of these links, and they *could* ban you for abuse, as its obvious to them that its teh same person/site doing the promotion.. so this one may be a perfectly valid way to get yoruself banned. It’s also a perfectly legit way to show users off to your other projects. If I had a blog and I just launched an unrelated site, I’m sure as hell going to plug it from my own blog. Google has no reason to penalize that.. but if you are linking to it from your own ‘shady neighborhoods’ it probably will also mark the new site as a bad neighborhood (since again, google can pretty much tell that its the site owners spreading the bad google lovin)

or am i just talking crazy?

None of these methods will get you ‘massive pagerank’, or any pagerank at all, but they sure as hell won’t be the reason that you get deindexed.

#6/7 are interesting ones. Even if you get 100% relevent links and everything is gorgeous, it is said all over the internet that ‘growing too fast’ will hurt your backlinks. However, what about these massive overnight ‘viral’ sites. I launched a site, hit front page digg, front page reddit, etc, where as previously, it didnt have a single backlink, suddenly it was on many many blogs in one day. Now, the number is probably not in the thousands, but even look at sites like this milliondollarwiki! They asked *tons* of bloggers to blog about it.. 1000s overnight pretty much.. and.. you don’t see them suffering. Again, it is an external factor and cant ‘hurt’ you, only help you. Google can choose to discount the weight of all these ‘new’ links, but it sure wont deindex you completely.

7 ive read all over the place, but I see big sites doing it all the time. Say a big company launches a new site. What do they do first? They link it from their corporate site, and other related sites. I could point out examples of this if you wish. The sites rocket to good ranking since they are linked from *huge* trusted sites, even though they are on the same cname. I’ve no doubt that google discounts the value of these links, and they *could* ban you for abuse, as its obvious to them that its teh same person/site doing the promotion.. so this one may be a perfectly valid way to get yoruself banned. It’s also a perfectly legit way to show users off to your other projects. If I had a blog and I just launched an unrelated site, I’m sure as hell going to plug it from my own blog. Google has no reason to penalize that.. but if you are linking to it from your own ‘shady neighborhoods’ it probably will also mark the new site as a bad neighborhood (since again, google can pretty much tell that its the site owners spreading the bad google lovin)

or am i just talking crazy?

Simply point out to google the evidence and big G kills both the seller and buyer of the links.

Heard on the grapevine that pay per post type campaigns are due to be kicked soundly. Sigh. There goes blogvertise and payperpost as well

Simply point out to google the evidence and big G kills both the seller and buyer of the links.

Heard on the grapevine that pay per post type campaigns are due to be kicked soundly. Sigh. There goes blogvertise and payperpost as well

i think some form of another webmaster sign up to eg TLA as publisher or advertisers to earn or rank their blogs. is it a futile effort?

should we go ‘organic’ then?

i think some form of another webmaster sign up to eg TLA as publisher or advertisers to earn or rank their blogs. is it a futile effort?

should we go ‘organic’ then?

One of my domains is a mere PR3 site, but had a few lines of invisible text. Remnants of old school SEO from the start of the millenium.

Weeks ago, Google notified me about it and took the site off the index for a few days until the staff cleaned up the minor offensive code. Then the site started reappearing in the search engine.

Keep black hat off your arsenal. They catch small time offenders. What’s more of big time users of cloaking, page generators and paid linking?

One of my domains is a mere PR3 site, but had a few lines of invisible text. Remnants of old school SEO from the start of the millenium.

Weeks ago, Google notified me about it and took the site off the index for a few days until the staff cleaned up the minor offensive code. Then the site started reappearing in the search engine.

Keep black hat off your arsenal. They catch small time offenders. What’s more of big time users of cloaking, page generators and paid linking?

Having read other peoples experiences in getting banned by accident they have often struggled to get re-indexed, even after contacting google.

However to end on a postive, a list of resources here may help you boost your traffic and rankings =D

Having read other peoples experiences in getting banned by accident they have often struggled to get re-indexed, even after contacting google.

However to end on a postive, a list of resources here may help you boost your traffic and rankings =D

the internet is really fast and everything is going a million miles an hour but it still takes (relatively) ages to build up a good reputation and ‘internet respect’, that’s just like real life.

you’re lucky, you have the skills and knowledge to know what does what so you can speed up the process by a few PR updates, thanks for sharing

the internet is really fast and everything is going a million miles an hour but it still takes (relatively) ages to build up a good reputation and ‘internet respect’, that’s just like real life.

you’re lucky, you have the skills and knowledge to know what does what so you can speed up the process by a few PR updates, thanks for sharing

Google is playing some kind of a game with the latest pagerank update (the toolbar of course). Have you seen the threads in DP and V7N forums? Very funny.